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gabriel_c
August 4th, 2002, 09:03 AM
Hi,
I just got a Admin Job at my New School,its a new school they have like 2 years , 2 weeks ago we setup the whole network, and the teachers told me that when they had the old network the students used to do all kinds of stuff to Fuc% the computers. they decided that only the admin username should be used to logging to the computers and inside the admin account changeing identidies , but because the principal and i were the only ones with the password, and i had to wake up early every day to go and get the network online, because they don't whant the network to stay up 24/7, but i recieved an email a few hours ago, that i could put 2 user accounts at the Welcome Screen, but i was testing in my own computer, and i created the accounts, and they didn't show up at the Welcome Screen, what do you think i did wrong? ? ?

any other suggestions that could help secure the school network

by the way im using Win XP pro on all the computers at my school.

any programs or security messurements that any of you recomend i would apreciate.

thanks in advanced :)

matthewnowell
August 4th, 2002, 09:13 AM
Well go into control panel, then select users and select user accounts. Then diC* arround there you will find it. If all else fails use help.

gabriel_c
August 4th, 2002, 09:34 AM
thanks lol i just restarted my computer and in the botom right i just read what you just posted, lol , the answer was there all the time , i was trying to create the account with the administrative tools that was my problem,

but if someone with more experience could help me in who to secure the network i wold really apreciate the advice

know i have another question , when i'm creating an acount and i get to the account type i can only select computer administrator the Limited option is disable i think. does any one knows how to bypass it or what setting should i change ? ? ?

jcdux
August 4th, 2002, 11:23 AM
I pity your school employing you.
there is a wealth of information regarding securing networks and XP, why don't you spend time reading up on the background and learn security for yourself.
Posting stupid questions like this on a security site is just reinforcing the fact that your not qualified to be an Admin, XP is an operating system that is designed to aid idiots, the fact your having problems with such a fool proof OS reinforces the fact your an absolute idiot.

My advice is for the sad muppets that employed you, go and hire somebody that knows their arse from their elbows and you'll be in a better position than you are now.

And advice for gabrial_c, start reading and learning before your employer realises that the kids are more technically competant to run the network than you.
:(
J.

gabriel_c
August 4th, 2002, 06:31 PM
jcdux, this is a Forum and i can post anything related to Network Security aslong that is not compromising anything or anyone,I enter antionline to find help and to read about whats new or even if i can help some one i do it, not to call "Idiot" some one that doesn't know how to do something that i know how to do it , if i see a threat and i don't like it i just don't reply or make an offencive comment about it, i think that you like many of other users here know more about network security and other topics that me, but the fact that you know more about the topic that me, doesn't give you anyright to call me idiot or whatever other insult.
But thanks for your time and replying to my post :)
Have a nice day:)

dev_ocean
August 4th, 2002, 06:57 PM
i think you don't understand what he says , he says that u were supposed to know these things when u were employed because these r basic things needed for job u do . if know anything else it's abenefit for u not us . As for windows me too a windows user for my many works and it really is very easy to operate as u don't have to learn commands u just have to click .rest assured u'll get ur work done just use it for some time and try new things u may be on ur way to tell others how to do things

preacherman481
August 4th, 2002, 07:00 PM
///quote///know i have another question , when i'm creating an acount and i get to the account type i can only select computer administrator the Limited option is disable i think. does any one knows how to bypass it or what setting should i change ? ? ?///quote///

Hmm, you should always be able to create a Limited Account. I do know that you must have at least one Administrator account at all times. The system will not let you change the last Administrator Account to a Limited account. Is this what you are trying to do? The system won't let you do that if it is. You need to create a completely new Limited Account. If I'm misunderstanding you, please clarify your answer. And, this isn't meant to be insulting, but when you post, please take the time to be as clear and concise as possible, and use your best spelling and grammar. People will be better able to help if they can understand you. :)

gabriel_c
August 4th, 2002, 07:10 PM
thanks preacherman481,
what i meant was that i have the admin account, but i try to create a new aco**** (3levelStu)not to change the admin account, and the limited options is disable, but i already have a admin account on that box.

preacherman481
August 4th, 2002, 07:24 PM
Hi,
Well, I don't know then. I have Windows XP Home, and I just did:

1)Control Panel
2)User Accounts
3) Create a new account
4)Then another screen where I filled in the name for the account (I used Bubba).
5)Then I clicked next.
6)Then it gave me a choice between two radio buttons (Administrator and Limited).
7) I clicked Limited and clicked ok, and it created the account.

gabriel_c
August 4th, 2002, 07:28 PM
thanks anyway preacherman481, have a nice day.

noODle
August 4th, 2002, 08:19 PM
Originally posted here (http://www.AntiOnline.com/showthread.php?threadid=#post) by jcdux
I pity your school employing you.
(ed.)the kids are more technically competant to run the network than you.
:(
J.

i agree with that

avdven
August 4th, 2002, 09:40 PM
If you aren't having the names show up on the Welcome screen, you should disable the welcome screen all together. The welcome screen is inherently unsafe. I would recommend chaning the setting so that users are forced to type the username and password each time they log in. The setting in question can be found by going to:

Control Panel
User Accounts
"Change the way users log on or off"
Unselect "Use the Welcome screen"

Also, I recommend that you set it up to clear the last user who logged in and enable requiring hitting CTRL ALT DEL to log in. To do so go to:

Control Panel
Administrative Tools
Local Security Policy
Local Policies
Security Options
Change "Interactive logon: Do not display last user name" to Enabled
Change "Interactive logon: Do not require CTRL+ALT+DEL" to Disabled

That should resolve any problems you are having.

AJ

Edit: I also completely agree with the fact that you should have known all of this before you were hired. I don't know how you managed to get the job, but now that you have it, you had better start reading books and articles online so you can learn the ins and outs of your network before you ***** something up and get fired.

gabriel_c
August 4th, 2002, 10:03 PM
Thanks avdven tomorrow mornig i'm going to make those changes:D

i would try to read more about NT and securing network applications , i think i should go and find Nt for dummies :D

and other question does anyone knows of a program that can help to build dymanical Test and Quizes
i already made some whit Macr0medi@ @uthoerware 6 but i would like to know if some one else has done something similar .

JCHostingAdmin
August 4th, 2002, 10:04 PM
Only thing about Windows User Control's is that I wish it would let you choose the options for it instead of simply making it Administrator or User. I like it better where you can manually choose what it can do. Just my 2 cents.

avdven
August 4th, 2002, 10:14 PM
[QUOTE]and other question does anyone knows of a program that can help to build dymanical Test and Quizes[/URL]

What do you mean by dymamic? Do you want the program to randomly choose and change questions, etc. as different users go through it? If you're talking about online tests/quizzes Authorware is probably the easiest thing you can use for that. If you're talking about physical tests (like a test bank), then there are plenty of good test bank programs available which will let you enter a series of questions with answers, and it will randomize the questions as well as answers (if the test is multiple choice). If you are interested in some of these, PM me and I will give you a list of test bank suppliers which you can talk to... those programs, however, aren't all that inexpensive (though, Authorware isn't cheap either...) If you (or your campus) had the money to buy Authorware, then you can probably afford to buy a good test bank program.

AJ