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Originally posted here by djscribble
[B]but that is why hardened gentoo exists -- and it is not gentoo that has the problems, but the software --
No, it's Gentoo's port of it. Gentoo and Debian have 3 a day, Slackware and SUSE maybe once a month. And SUSE doesn't use the same Kernel Gentoo does as they have a more lcoked down version of it, and do security audits the same as Open BSD.
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if you install the newest software of anything on any version of linux -- even your precious slackware -- you are going to have security holes, but that is why the stable and hardened version exists.
No, Stable is something that was taken from BSD. Stable, Release and Beta. SUSE uses none. Slackware has stable and current. Current is what the next version is going to become. As for hardened versions SUSE uses rxstack Kernels by default and has since 8.2.
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Furthermore, if you are complaining that gentoo has no security compared to Slackware, Slackware has no security compared to OpenBSD --
That's a load of **** and you should know it. Any OS can take NetBSD, close it off by default so that's it's barely useable, and slap the secure sticker on it. Don't tell me you believe that bullshit from that dick face theo.
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we might as well point jin29_neci OpenBSD and no matter what we should be prepared to provide free tech support until they are up to speed unless they are pointed to a version like Ubuntu or SUSE.
You have no idea what a user thinks do you?
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Furthermore in response to That is not necessarily true. A person will learn quicker if you throw them into the fire and then let them work their way out (helping when necessary)
No, that's a faster way to make them give up and stick with Windows. You can't use that **** about "You['ll learn more this way" and expect them to want to use it. They don't CARE how it works. Linux was enver big until RedHat and SUSE made it easy.
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than if you hold their hand the entire way spoon feeding them like SUSE does. By using nothing but YAST and KDE/Gnome a person might as well use windows because they are not really going to learn anything since there are shortcuts and wizards that already does everything.
Yea it's not like Gentoo comes with gnome or KDE. *Sigh* do you honestly think someone new to Linux is going to keep using it if they have to sit up all night at a bash prompt instead of doing their jobs? Pull yourself out of your shoes and pull your head out of your ass and realise not everyone gives a **** how their computer works.